, why does it always have to come down to some kind of crisis for anything to get done whether it's washington or san francisco? >> well, i have been trying to avoid crises. so we have our budget increasing, we have good revenues going. so i think locally we're doing okay. >> but we do have to watch out. >> all those things you always wind up having them in the office at the 11th hour, 59th minute, kicking and screaming. why? >> we politicians, phil are different from most people. we really do try to find the perfect answer. and it just takes longer. >> oh, come on. [ laughter ] >> you guys just can't stick around and agree. >> it doesn't work that way. >> you mean boehner and obama are look for the perfect answer? >> everybody is elected and everybody wishes to make good on their promises and clearly, you have to keep the debate going until you appeared to be the winner. >> so it is about winning, then. >> for politicians, probably yes. i have to say so. everybody has different things in play all the time. sometimes they are waiting for the right moment and waiting for circumstances that don'